Bumble App Review

Hinge: yae or nae?

2020.10.27 02:57 flying_olympicmonkey Hinge: yae or nae?

Hey beautiful people! I joined Bumble a couple months ago and have gotten lots of dates out of it, but nothing serious as of yet :/ I’m F(19) and looking for a relationship, and wonder if anyone recommends Hinge? I read lots of negative reviews about having to pay? Just wondering if it’s worth setting up a profile or not.. Thank you! ;) (Also if there are any other apps y’all have tried for younger people looking for relationships I’d greatly appreciate it!)
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2020.10.18 22:37 lizard81288 Are there any good dating apps?

I decided to go hard, and I messaged a bunch of people in hinge and OkCupid. Needless to say, nobody messaged me back. I've ran out if people on both apps. Both apps day they will refresh the next day.
Anyway, I decided to see about other dating apps, since with both of those apps, I can't see when the last time said person logged in, so I could just be messaging a bunch of ghost accounts.
I figured with the pandemic, online dating would be through the proof, since people don't want to meet up in person
I hit up the app store to see what was out there. I've been on tinder, bumble, ect. I haven't been in them in a long time, so I thought I'd read the reviews for them and other dating apps too. Surprisingly, despite the high ratings, most of the reviews Are just 1 star ratings on all the apps I browsed. The most common complaints beings, spammers, scammers, and how the app charges for everything, like seeing likes or messaging people. However, even when you lay the premium price, it offers little in return.
This got me thinking, are there any good dating apps now? I know it doesn't help that match.com seems to own like 98% of all dating things, but I was surprised at how good apps, way back when, like bumble or coffee and bagels (from what I've been told), now are generally being rated 1 stars for reviews.
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2020.10.18 17:26 GreenSpace3321 Is there any app where people actually want to be your friend ?

I’ve tried Yubo but it’s full of catfishers, people leave you on read even tho they added you , they only add you so you can add them on social media and never respond again, people that take a long time to respond , people that act like “ why did you add me “ sometimes people that actually want to be friends, people pretending to be their age , people that are not like the picture , sellers , etc the app sucks , waste of 5 bucks , and yes I got my refund ,
I just want to make new friends not just add them for no reason and there’s this app called bumble , i didn’t get it , I’ve tried most more make new friends apps and they’re people just like in yubo , i am deleting these apps tomorrow. Sorry if you disagree with me about this but I’m gonna take a little break to make new friends and then come back and was wondering if you know a app better . Sorry for the little review there . Have a nice day .
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2020.10.18 15:12 OnlyGreatChicken Signed up to 3 popular dating apps after 2 months, here are the results [Update]

This post is related to this post from over a month ago, but I'll cover all in this post regardless -
https://www.reddit.com/dating/comments/ilqgov/so_i_28m_signed_up_to_3_popular_dating_apps_afte
Pre-Reqs - So I'm a 28M. I'd rate myself a solid 6/10 in appearance (but I'm a harsh critic and tastes vary). I am however quite drive, I've travelled loads, educated and cultured with good life prospects (I hope). Live in a large UK city.
Tinder - So after my 1 month post, things never got better. This is an experiment I've seemingly carried out multiple times now. Create a profile with high hopes and get matches with some sketchy, catfish profiles or just generally very low effort profiles. It was actually starting to cause depression and I quickly removed it.
Verdict - Trash. For an average looking guy, I'm not saying you can't get lucky and match the love of your life. But statistically speaking, you're far more likely to get depressed and develop rock bottom self esteem.

Bumble - The concept of "Women message first" is doing it no favours, but I can appreciate the potential, perhaps its my area, perhaps it's my ugly. But the odd match I did get and the even rarer message, resulted in a conversations I had to 100% carry. Just a very tough crowd. The profiles allow for more personality compared to a basic Tinder one.
Verdict - I'd hate to say its on par with Tinder (such I despise Tinder) but I've found no success on Bumble.

Hinge - I was quite mean to Hinge in my initial review. The very small limit with who you can '"Like" (I think its 5 per day on free accounts) and the high monthly subscription was why I initially disliked it. However, taking advice from my previous posts comments, I change my tactics on Hinge. The key point is it's not Bumble and Tinder, you've got to be tactical and selective. Make the 5 matches count each day.
Initiate a conversation via the "Like Comment" before even matching. It takes a fair bit more effort than just swiping but if you can be creative, funny or generally inquisitive in your comments, you have a good chance.
Verdict - Hinge has granted me most success. In fact, 2 dates in 2 months (personal record from 2 in 2 years), with 2 more potentials! This is coming from a guy who lost hope in life using Tinder / Bumble, so if you were by any means successful on them, you could clean up on Hinge.
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2020.10.02 17:39 the1egend1ives If you aren't getting matches, maybe you should try going outside to meet women.

I want to preface this by saying that I'm not trying to discourage anyone. I simply want to share my experience with online dating as well as with meeting women in real life, and hope that some of you might find success with the alternative to OLD.
Like a lot of you, I'm incredibly frustrated with the world of online dating. No matter what I do to my profile, I can't seem to get any matches. All my photos are of me engaged in hobbies, hanging out with friends, or visiting some exotic location. I've asked female coworkers and dating app regulars to review my profile, and they all tell me everything looks look good. I've had guys who are successful at online dating tell me that my profile is amazing. I've spent tons of money on subscriptions/boosts across multiple dating apps. So... why can't I get any matches?
I've often wondered if I'm just not attractive enough. I've had users on this subreddit critique my profile, and they tell me that I'm getting passed on because the angle of my main photo is tilted, or because my collar is messed up. Sure. I totally believe that's why I'm getting passed on, and not because I'm bald or 5' 8".
But lately, I've been experiencing a surge of success by ditching the dating apps. I visit the dog park often, and I see a lot of cute single girls there who I've started approaching. Each time I was able to pull a number off of them. After that initial fear, you quickly relax into a fun conversation about her dog, her hobbies, and her interests. I've gotten multiple dates this way and they've all ended extremely well. After spending the night with one of my dates, I showed her my Hinge profile. "I would totally swipe on you!" I smiled, knowing that wasn't true. My experience says otherwise. She might find me super attractive now, after I've impressed her with my confidence, personality, humor, and performance in bed, but she definitely would not give me the time of day if she didn't know me and was deciding based off of six photos on Hinge.
Meeting someone in real life is a totally different animal than online dating. It's impossible to wow someone on Bumble with anything other than your photos. However, in real life women are wowed simply by a guy who has the guts to walk up and say hello. It's not something that happens very often for a lot of women, so you aren't competing with the 500 men who she's matched with on Tinder. It wows them enough that women don't care that you aren't the most attractive man in the world. There's no deciding factor for a swipe based off something as shallow as your height or your hair. When you talk to a woman, you're able to say so much more about yourself in a shorter amount of time than any man who's texting someone for days or weeks on a dating app. You automatically match with her, and you're her only match. She could be talking to Zac Efron on Tinder, but she's going to go out with you because you displayed something that Zac Efron couldn't via his dating app: confidence.
So if you want my advice, ditch the shallow, superficial dating apps that swallow all your money, and just stick to meeting women the old-fashioned way. You won't be disappointed.
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"Eat 'em. Don’t throw 'em." - Bumble Bee Tuna, asking to be excluded from this narrative

The Fix Is Thin

President Trump has become incredibly transparent about his intention to cheat in an election that he is currently losing, considerately giving the rest of us ample time to organize and vote in numbers that won’t allow his scheme to succeed.
Fortunately, like most things he tries his hand at, Trump truly sucks at this.
A chaotic post-election power grab isn’t inevitable, but we need to be clear about the seriousness of the threat. As long as Donald Trump is openly plotting ways to overturn the will of the voters, it’s on journalists to state that plainly, it’s on Democrats to fight back with every available tool, and it’s on all of us to help Joe Biden win by such a large margin that this whole edition of What A Day is irrelevant.

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Under The Radar

Republicans have been courting the QAnon vote with attack ads that baselessly accuse Democrats of protecting pedophiles. The National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee (NRCC) released an ad slandering Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-NJ) with the claim that he “tried to make it easier for predators to hide in the shadows,” and “worked as the top lobbyist for a radical group that opposed the National Sex Offender Registry.” The NRCC has used similar themes aligned with the QAnon conspiracy in districts around the country. Instead of trying to distance themselves from the increasingly violent cult worming its way into mainstream politics, Republicans are actively pandering to its followers. Seems good! Here’s where to donate to Malinowski’s campaign, as well as Florida candidate Margaret Good, Michigan candidate Jon Hoadley, and Missouri candidate Jill Schupp.

What Else?

A Kentucky grand jury did not charge any police officers directly in the killing of Breonna Taylor. The grand jury did indict former Louisville, KY, police officer Brett Hankison on three counts of wanton endangerment for shooting into neighboring apartments, while the other two officers escaped indictment altogether. One of those officers, Sgt. Jonathan Mattingly, sent an email to his colleagues ahead of the announcement in which he called protesters “thugs” and wrote, “I know we did the legal, moral and ethical thing that night.” No words. Here’s where to support protesters in Louisville, if you’re able.
The late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg laid in repose at the Supreme Court today, and more than 100 of her former clerks mourned her passing in a gathering at the Court steps.
Several current and former administration officials have told the Washington Post that one can’t construe Trump as racist because he actually says much worse stuff about women. Anyway, that article opens with Trump telling senior aides that Black people are hindered by a lack of initiative, and that Jews “are only in it for themselves.”
Senate Republicans’ report on Joe and Hunter Biden is a mess of already public Russian disinformation and debunked allegations. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) also slipped in suggestions of a link between Hunter and sex traffickers, for the Q folks to gnaw on.
Florida’s attorney general has called for an investigation into Mike Bloomberg’s effort to help people with felony convictions register to vote by paying off their court fines and fees. We can’t say it better than this.
A New York judge ruled that Eric Trump must sit for a deposition in the Trump Organization’s fraud case by October 7, which, the savvy reader will notice, is before November 3.
A former National Security Council official said that White House aides lied about John Bolton’s book containing classified material, and that the Justice Department may have (gasp) opened a criminal investigation based on false pretenses.
The Department of Homeland Security has awarded more than $6 million in contracts to the consulting firm where acting Secretary Chad Wolf’s wife is an executive. The Wolf of Windfall Street? The Wife of Wolf Street? We'll workshop it.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has had enough of Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) and it’s kind of cathartic to watch.

Be Smarter

As we (tentatively, jinx-lessly, HOPEFULLY) prepare for a world in which Donald Trump isn’t president, it’s worth remembering that efforts to undermine democracy are ingrained in the GOP at every level. In Michigan, a company collecting signatures to strip Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) of her emergency powers coached paid petition circulators on lying to voters about the initiative, illegally collecting signatures without witnessing them, and even lying under oath. Across the country, conservative lawyer Hans von Spakovsky (one of the main proponents of the debunked idea that voter fraud is rampant) has been conducting private meetings on voter fraud for Republican state-election officials only, presumably to strategize about voter suppression. We’ll all need and deserve a nap after this election, but nobody gets to check out.

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2020.09.22 04:29 greengod210 Did it recently occur to anybody else how much online dating sucks?

I have been on many online dating sites, and I have had no success on any of them. Here is a list of the sites I have been on:
-Bumble: I got absolutely no messages or matches. I made a good profile, tried to filter my preferences, and I didn’t get a single message in the 4 months before I cancelled and deleted my account.
-Match: If possible, this was the worst one of all. It surprised me because it normally has the reputation of being a welcome relief from other, cheaper dating sites, but I didn’t get a single match or message on this app. It’s just awful for people my age (22). My (divorcée) parents both met their respective partners on Match and are still going strong and happy after 5 years. Match is great for middle-aged people, but for young people, it’s awful.
-Christian Mingle: I am religious, attend Mass every Sunday and am a Eucharistic Minister, so I figured this would be “it.” But not a single match or message in the five months I was on there. Just as bad as the other site.
-Catholic Match: trash
-OkCupid: Perhaps the most depressing app I’ve used so far. Not only do hardly any of the girls on there actually take it seriously. “idk why I’m here lol, just follow me on Instagram,” all that sort of crap. But the features of the app make it impossible to get in touch with anyone. My friend has a date with a girl he met from there tomorrow night and has had 5 matches in the past 2 weeks, texting for days with 2 of them. I sat down with him and reviewed everything about my profile, and he even took some good, professional photos of me. I’ve done the exact same thing he did that got all these matches, and I have yet to receive a single message from an actual pretty girl. I filter my preferences (Catholic, thin to average, within 25 miles) and the app gives me the exact opposite of all those things (atheist, “full-figured,” 60 miles away, etc). This is my only active subscription right now, and I will be cancelling after this month. I’m done with this.
I have literally never felt worse about myself than trying all these online dating sites to no avail. I am about a 5 out of 10, a relatively ugly guy. So these apps are just horrible for me. Whenever I did get a message (once every 3 months, if I’m lucky), they were from girls I was repulsed by. If I just found them “ok” I would’ve pursued it, but I’d rather be single than end up with the girls who messaged me-not one of them weighed less than 250-300 lbs, which just makes me realize I am ugly as sin if no one messages me besides massively overweight girls. Starting at the end of my current OkCupid subscription, I’ll be focusing on expanding my social circle and hobbies in real life and meeting someone that way. I don’t even like meeting people through a computer. I was only trying it because I live in the suburbs and there are hardly any single girls my age where I live, and I was at a complete loss. Anyone else feel the same way, particularly guys??
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2020.09.03 12:34 autobuzzfeedbot 10 things in tech you need to know today

  1. US video-sharing app Triller believes China's new export rules strengthen its $20 billion bid to acquire TikTok's US business from Chinese parent ByteDance. One source involved in the discussions told Business Insider that China's new rules favor Triller because the company could take on TikTok's branding while still using its own code.
  2. Apple, Amazon, and and Google hiked their developer and ad client fees to pass on the costs of paying new digital taxes in Europe. Apple on Tuesday announced a group of new developer fees motivated by new digital services taxes in Italy, France, the UK, and Turkey.
  3. PayPal told Business Insider it has terminated at least four accounts linked to a Russian influence operation exposed on Tuesday. Business Insider obtained the list of accounts from freelance writers who said they had been duped into writing for the Russian operation, which posed as a progressive website called "Peace Data."
  4. Mediatonic, the British studio that created the smash hit game "Fall Guys", nearly failed in 2016, its CEO told Business Insider. "Fall Guys" has hit 7 million downloads on Steam, and the game was created after Mediatonic lost all its client business in 2016.
  5. The dating and networking app Bumble is readying to go public as soon as early 2021, according to Bloomberg. Bumble could seek an initial-public-offering valuation between $6 billion and $8 billion, the news agency reported.
  6. Google has resumed performance reviews, but some employees are anxious that the new, longer 12-month cycle will hurt their chances to get promotions. The new reviews will assess performance for the past 12 months, whereas previously reviews typically assessed a 6-month period.
  7. The founder and former CEO of Virtudent, a Boston teledentistry startup, has sued his former company as well as its some of its directors, officers, and investors, saying that he was unjustly ousted for pushing back on the directors' grow-at-all-costs strategy. Hitesh Tolani launched Virtudent in 2014 as one of the first commercial teledentistry firms; its hygienists conduct exams in corporate offices or other places and then consult with its dentists over the internet.
  8. A federal appeals court ruled on Wednesday that the NSA's sweeping program to collect Americans' phone records was illegal and possibly unconstitutional. In its ruling, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals said the NSA broke the law by collecting "phone metadata," or bulk records of Americans' phone call history.
  9. A Facebook employee sparked outrage after defending "well-intentioned law enforcement officers" and disputing that there's racial bias in policing in a post on internal company messaging boards, The Daily Beast reported Wednesday. According to The Daily Beast, the backlash was so strong that Mark Zuckerberg alluded to the post in a note to employees, saying some people weren't "appreciating the impact their words are having on our Black community."
  10. Microsoft on Tuesday announced the launch of Microsoft Video Authenticator, a tool designed to spot when videos have been manipulated using deepfake technology. Microsoft said it's inevitable deepfake technology will adapt to avoid detection, but that in the run-up to the election its tool can be useful.
Link to article
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2020.08.30 04:45 FuckTheTTC [srs] What happened to all these apps all of a sudden?

I live in Toronto and as a minority guy my experiences with online dating has been pretty bad (as expected) but until about a year ago I still used to get matches women my race and a certain type of women from other races.
I quit for a while and recently decided to sign up because of boredom with the exact same profile and its absolutely terrible now. I have tried Tinder, Bumble and OkCupid and in every single one of these apps I get a lot of likes upon signing up initially. None of these likes convert to matches and then everything just stops completely. Also, the push to make me pay has gotten more aggressive and downright scummy.
All three apps tried to use the same trick of telling me how popular I am; Tinder and OkCupid showed me likes and then asked if I want to pay up to see who liked me. Some actually turned to matches with no replies. Bumble gave me a free boost during which I got matches and then everything stopped and it asked me if I want to pay since I was getting so many matches because of the boost. Jokes on you motherfuckers, I am a minority and I am not popular at all so I ain't falling for your tricks.
Did anything change recently? They are all owned by the same parent company so I would assume its the same scum bags in marketing coming up with these strategies. Looking at the reviews, all these apps have a flurry of 1 stars on Google Play Store. To be fair this may always have been a case because people only write reviews to complain.
Here is a history view of ratings for these apps:
https://www.appbrain.com/app/hinge-dating-relationships/co.hinge.app
https://www.appbrain.com/app/tinder-dating-make-friends-and-meet-new-people/com.tinder https://www.appbrain.com/app/okcupid-the-online-dating-app-for-great-dates/com.okcupid.okcupid
OKC seems to be fine but the recent updates have floored both Hinge and Tinder.
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2020.08.25 22:22 Zorgi23 COVID Update - Aug. 25, 2020: Miscellanea

COVID Update - Aug. 25, 2020: Miscellanea

Thank you!

So many people wrote yesterday with really nice messages of support. I really, really appreciate it. Periodically, I do lectures on various topics in front of up to 150 people. You get feedback right away about the effectiveness of the talk – are people looking at their cell phones? Is there a healthy Q&A afterward?
On social media, it can be hard to figure out. These messages are the main way I have to gauge whether I’m on track or not. I post/crosspost to 8 subreddits, and I’ve always maintained that as soon as posts have a negative net vote, or the mods kick me out, I’m gone.
I’m acutely aware I’m a bit player in this dystopian drama we call the plandemic. Contributing something positive is important to my mental health.

History’s a Bitch

In late October 2014, the case count for Ebola in the U.S. rose by 33% in one day – from 3 to 4. The final toll for this outbreak came to 11 cases and two deaths. Here is what prominent Republicans had to say about it.
Darrel Issa (CA): “Any further fumbles, bumbles or missteps … can no longer be tolerated.”
Steve Scalise (LA): “This president in general, all across his agencies, has not shown the ability to run a competent administration”
Donald Trump: “Obama just appointed an Ebola Czar with zero experience in the medical area and zero experience in infectious disease control. A TOTAL JOKE!”
When a doctor treating Ebola came back to the U.S. with the illness, Trump had this to say: “If this doctor, who so recklessly flew into New York from West Africa, has Ebola, then Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!”
Five years prior, one year into Obama’s first term, a new H1N1 virus broke out in California.

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Look familiar? – even though H1N1 isn’t a coronavirus.
Within a year, there were 60 million swine flu cases reported, and 12,000 people died. Here is what Trump had to say about that:
Take a look at the swine flu. Right? That’s H1N1. Take a look at that. And it’s not the other way around, by the way. It’s H1N1. Take a look — you know what I mean by that. Take a look at the swine flu. It was a disaster; 17,000 people died.”
Yesterday, YouGov and CBS released a national poll asking 2,226 registered voters whether the current death toll, now over 180,000, was acceptable. 57% of Republicans said that it was. 73% of Republicans said that the US response to covid-19 was “going well.”
I expect the usual people to come out of the woodwork and condemn me for mixing politics with data. But notice that I haven’t written anything political yet; I’ve just reported on some quotes.
Yes, history is a bitch. And it appears to be political, too.

Reinfection? Don’t Panic

Yesterday, Science Magazine reported:
Scientists have found the first solid evidence that people can be reinfected with the virus that causes COVID-19. A new study shows a 33-year-old man who was treated at the hospital for a mild case in March harbored the virus again when he was tested at the Hong Kong airport after returning from Europe on 15 August, less than 5 months later. He had no symptoms this time. Researchers had sequenced the virus, SARS-CoV-2, from the first infection; they did so again after the patient’s second diagnosis and found numerous differences between the two, bolstering the case that the patient had been infected a second time. Sciencemag.org
The authors of the write-up on this case said the following: “It is unlikely that herd immunity can eliminate SARS-CoV-2. Second, vaccines may not be able to provide life-long protection against COVID-19.”
As the article in Science explains, however, it’s not that simple. Nothing has been peer reviewed yet. The press constructed their headlines from a press release by the authors, without access to the full paper. It is one case out of 24 million. In other words, don’t jump to any conclusions yet.

Hydroxy. . .Bleach. . . Oleander?

If you have a family member / friend / coworker who drinks the Fox/OANN Kool-Aid by the gallon, they might have told you about the latest “miracle cure” – extract of Oleander.
Just say no. And maybe refer them to this article.

Misinformation & Social Media

At my age – 72 – you can imagine that I’m not especially keen on social media. When the Cambridge Analytica story broke, I deleted my Facebook account completely. I kept my IG account because that’s about the only way I can see pictures of my grandkids and their moms and dads, but that’s it. No Twitter either.
Yes, I know the irony police will excoriate me because Reddit is, after all, social media. This points out the difference between helpful social media and harmful media: moderation. Not moderation in the sense of being “in the middle” on all things, but rather in the sense of keeping outrageous commentary where it belongs – on the sidelines.
Reddit does this through karma, awards, and most importantly, moderators who set the tone. Without this, Reddit would be no better than FB, Twitter, or YouTube.
A large proportion of the misinformation about COVID is spread through Facebook groups, YouTube videos and silly Tweets. Whether it’s the bogus video, Plandemic, hydroxychloroquine promotions, or conspiracy theories, you can find a group or channel devoted to them with thousands of followers. The business models, as well as the ideologies of executives, doesn’t allow for extensive moderation, so misinformation and lies spread like wildfire.
While NextDoor.com isn’t often mentioned in the articles about social media problems, it’s one of the prime offenders. Of course the “moderators” attacked Black Lives Matter. It was a logical extension of the ubiquitous videos from Ring showing a “suspicious person wearing a hoodie”. The Verge even wrote an article about it, featuring neighboring Rancho Santa Fe.
It was only natural that these same people would use ND to promote every bogus cure and meme from Fox/OANN, and they have. The “moderators” are quick to suspend accounts of those opposing this, while allowing phony polls and “community event notices” to proliferate.
Does that mean we shouldn’t fight misinformation on social media? No! When the propaganda film Plandemic came out, millions of people watched it and linked to it. Tara Haelle, in Forbes, came out with a great article about the power of this “documentary” and why it’s so important to combat it. It reads like a primer on how to talk to your family/friends/coworkers when they are swayed by social media, but aren’t full fledged cult members.

Up to date numbers available, even if not in this post

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Tentative List of LA Communities to Cover

I’ve compiled the final list (for now) of communities to cover in LA County. My first step was putting together this spreadsheet:

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The case and death rates are per 100,000 people rather than absolute numbers. I then sorted all the candidates first by cases, then by deaths. This gave me a list of 16 communities that were in the top 19 for both, and then I added two communities I personally am interested in.

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Finally, I took the 5 communities left, and added the case rate and death rate together. Florence-Firestone was clearly the one to add.

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Another redditor is generously offering their time to write a script that will upload case, fatality, and testing data for each day. So far, I have no way to get historical data for these communities, so I’ll have to accumulate about 10 days worth of data to produce any meaningful tables and charts.
Election Day is in 70 Days
Sick of the pandemic and ready for a change? Your vote counts, no matter where you live. So plan now: check your registration, make sure your family and friends do that, and motivate others to save our country. And don’t wait until the last minute to drop your ballot in the mail!
Have a great rest of the week everyone and stay safe, healthy, and strong!

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2020.08.25 22:18 Zorgi23 COVID Update - Aug. 25, 2020: Miscellanea

COVID Update - Aug. 25, 2020: Miscellanea

Thank you!

So many people wrote yesterday with really nice messages of support. I really, really appreciate it. Periodically, I do lectures on various topics in front of up to 150 people. You get feedback right away about the effectiveness of the talk – are people looking at their cell phones? Is there a healthy Q&A afterward?
On social media, it can be hard to figure out. These messages are the main way I have to gauge whether I’m on track or not. I post/crosspost to 8 subreddits, and I’ve always maintained that as soon as posts have a negative net vote, or the mods kick me out, I’m gone.
I’m acutely aware I’m a bit player in this dystopian drama we call the plandemic. Contributing something positive is important to my mental health.

History’s a Bitch

In late October 2014, the case count for Ebola in the U.S. rose by 33% in one day – from 3 to 4. The final toll for this outbreak came to 11 cases and two deaths. Here is what prominent Republicans had to say about it.
Darrel Issa (CA): “Any further fumbles, bumbles or missteps … can no longer be tolerated.”
Steve Scalise (LA): “This president in general, all across his agencies, has not shown the ability to run a competent administration”
Donald Trump: “Obama just appointed an Ebola Czar with zero experience in the medical area and zero experience in infectious disease control. A TOTAL JOKE!”
When a doctor treating Ebola came back to the U.S. with the illness, Trump had this to say: “If this doctor, who so recklessly flew into New York from West Africa, has Ebola, then Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!”
Five years prior, one year into Obama’s first term, a new H1N1 virus broke out in California.

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Look familiar? – even though H1N1 isn’t a coronavirus.
Within a year, there were 60 million swine flu cases reported, and 12,000 people died. Here is what Trump had to say about that:
Take a look at the swine flu. Right? That’s H1N1. Take a look at that. And it’s not the other way around, by the way. It’s H1N1. Take a look — you know what I mean by that. Take a look at the swine flu. It was a disaster; 17,000 people died.”
Yesterday, YouGov and CBS released a national poll asking 2,226 registered voters whether the current death toll, now over 180,000, was acceptable. 57% of Republicans said that it was. 73% of Republicans said that the US response to covid-19 was “going well.”
I expect the usual people to come out of the woodwork and condemn me for mixing politics with data. But notice that I haven’t written anything political yet; I’ve just reported on some quotes.
Yes, history is a bitch. And it appears to be political, too.

Reinfection? Don’t Panic

Yesterday, Science Magazine reported:
Scientists have found the first solid evidence that people can be reinfected with the virus that causes COVID-19. A new study shows a 33-year-old man who was treated at the hospital for a mild case in March harbored the virus again when he was tested at the Hong Kong airport after returning from Europe on 15 August, less than 5 months later. He had no symptoms this time. Researchers had sequenced the virus, SARS-CoV-2, from the first infection; they did so again after the patient’s second diagnosis and found numerous differences between the two, bolstering the case that the patient had been infected a second time. Sciencemag.org
The authors of the write-up on this case said the following: “It is unlikely that herd immunity can eliminate SARS-CoV-2. Second, vaccines may not be able to provide life-long protection against COVID-19.”
As the article in Science explains, however, it’s not that simple. Nothing has been peer reviewed yet. The press constructed their headlines from a press release by the authors, without access to the full paper. It is one case out of 24 million. In other words, don’t jump to any conclusions yet.

Hydroxy. . .Bleach. . . Oleander?

If you have a family member / friend / coworker who drinks the Fox/OANN Kool-Aid by the gallon, they might have told you about the latest “miracle cure” – extract of Oleander.
Just say no. And maybe refer them to this article.

Misinformation & Social Media

At my age – 72 – you can imagine that I’m not especially keen on social media. When the Cambridge Analytica story broke, I deleted my Facebook account completely. I kept my IG account because that’s about the only way I can see pictures of my grandkids and their moms and dads, but that’s it. No Twitter either.
Yes, I know the irony police will excoriate me because Reddit is, after all, social media. This points out the difference between helpful social media and harmful media: moderation. Not moderation in the sense of being “in the middle” on all things, but rather in the sense of keeping outrageous commentary where it belongs – on the sidelines.
Reddit does this through karma, awards, and most importantly, moderators who set the tone. Without this, Reddit would be no better than FB, Twitter, or YouTube.
A large proportion of the misinformation about COVID is spread through Facebook groups, YouTube videos and silly Tweets. Whether it’s the bogus video, Plandemic, hydroxychloroquine promotions, or conspiracy theories, you can find a group or channel devoted to them with thousands of followers. The business models, as well as the ideologies of executives, doesn’t allow for extensive moderation, so misinformation and lies spread like wildfire.
While NextDoor.com isn’t often mentioned in the articles about social media problems, it’s one of the prime offenders. Of course the “moderators” attacked Black Lives Matter. It was a logical extension of the ubiquitous videos from Ring showing a “suspicious person wearing a hoodie”. The Verge even wrote an article about it, featuring neighboring Rancho Santa Fe.
It was only natural that these same people would use ND to promote every bogus cure and meme from Fox/OANN, and they have. The “moderators” are quick to suspend accounts of those opposing this, while allowing phony polls and “community event notices” to proliferate.
Does that mean we shouldn’t fight misinformation on social media? No! When the propaganda film Plandemic came out, millions of people watched it and linked to it. Tara Haelle, in Forbes, came out with a great article about the power of this “documentary” and why it’s so important to combat it. It reads like a primer on how to talk to your family/friends/coworkers when they are swayed by social media, but aren’t full fledged cult members.

Up to date numbers available, even if not in this post

Interactive pages on zorgi.me:

Tentative List of LA Communities to Cover

I’ve compiled the final list (for now) of communities to cover in LA County. My first step was putting together this spreadsheet:

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The case and death rates are per 100,000 people rather than absolute numbers. I then sorted all the candidates first by cases, then by deaths. This gave me a list of 16 communities that were in the top 19 for both, and then I added two communities I personally am interested in.

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Finally, I took the 5 communities left, and added the case rate and death rate together. Florence-Firestone was clearly the one to add.

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Another redditor is generously offering their time to write a script that will upload case, fatality, and testing data for each day. So far, I have no way to get historical data for these communities, so I’ll have to accumulate about 10 days worth of data to produce any meaningful tables and charts.

Election Day is in 70 Days

Sick of the pandemic and ready for a change? Your vote counts, no matter where you live. So plan now: check your registration, make sure your family and friends do that, and motivate others to save our country. And don’t wait until the last minute to drop your ballot in the mail!
Have a great rest of the week everyone and stay safe, healthy, and strong!

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2020.08.24 19:12 TheDarkHood Deleting my OLD Profiles and Some Things You Should Consider about OLD

I've been in OLD for over 5 years at this point. I started it because it seemed like the only way to actually meet women when I was in college. Despite what people say, I found college to be exceptionally hard to find anyone, probably because I was in engineering. I continued swiping after I graduated but nothing seemed to change. I'm writing this to give others some perspective on why I am doing this and some questions that you might wanna ask yourself when doing OLD.
I've been pretty active on Tinder, Bumble, Hinge, OkCupid, etc. I don't think I am especially unattractive (pics in my past posts if want to verify) and I am pretty consistent. I got many many people to review my profile, pictures, etc. over the years so I think they were decent profiles. I would usually go at the apps for 3 months at a time, swiping until I got bored or I ran out of likes most days. I only swiped when I was interested, not all the time like some. I tried to keep conversations alive as I could. I'm saying all of this to say that I was giving it the old college try to the best of my abilities, it wasn't just a half-hearted attempt at dating during my 5 years.
There are two main reasons I deleted my OLD that I think everyone should also consider. The first was the expectations placed on me. Every time I matched with someone, it always started the same. As usual for a guy, I had to send the first message which had to be interesting enough to warrant a response. That didn't bother me too much. The much much harder part was carrying a conversation. Every time I got someone to respond, I felt like I had to be on my phone 24/7 before I lost their interest. It was a ticking timer that I could never get rid of and I hated it. I had to always be the one to carry the "conversation" which was usually me asking questions, getting a response, rinse and repeat. Never any questions back, never any interest, really it felt like I was talking to bots a lot of the time. It wasn't true always, I would get the occasional person who actually talked. But it was uncommon and the whole process was not a lot of fun. I've gotten to the point where I just don't see this as a good use of time anymore. I can't justify these expectations and have decided that if that's what it takes to find people in OLD, it really isn't worth it. I think if you want to do OLD, you should also weigh those expectations and decide if they are worth putting up with.
The second reason I deleted my OLD was I realized that this wasn't how I wanted to meet someone. Maybe I'm a bit classic but I want to have an equal relationship where both of us contribute. Having a cute story of how we met or ran into each other also sounds nice. But it never seems like people are looking for equality or natural in OLD. I think that's fine for some people but I realized I cared about that. The much more algorithmic and sterile way of meeting people in OLD just doesn't sit right with me. So I think if you want to do OLD, you should also consider that that is how you are trying to meet people. You have to be fine with finding the person you want to spend of the rest of your life with through an algorithm. Sure you have to swipe to match, but some algorithm is deciding whom you even swipe on in the first place.
Sorry for the long advice column, I just thought that maybe some of you out there hadn't considered those questions like I had until now. Hopefully this helps you decide if starting or continuing with OLD is right for you.
Final Stats: 5 years 2 months, 5 different apps, 61 matches, 1 date, no relationships

Edit: Grammar
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2020.08.17 19:41 LittleJohnsDingDong Took a bootcamp. More than doubled my salary. Not at all what was promised or how I thought the process would go. Here's what I learned.

Hold up. This won't be one of those posts that starts "I took a bootcamp and some Udemy classes and in 8 weeks of programming, I got an offer for six figures". I do see those posts and if you are one of the lucky ones, I'm super excited for you. That's not at all how it went down for me. I'm writing this to give my perspective for those people at the beginning of their coding journey and for those potentially thinking about a bootcamp.
Let's rewind a few years ago. I got my degree in design. Took a job at a startup where after designing for a bit, the owner asked me to take more of a role in marketing because the company needed my efforts there. I sacrificed my skillset for the company and shelved my design skillset. The startup sputtered and long story short, I was out of a job with a design skillset that wasn't developed enough to get a job and an atypical marketing skillset that wasn't up to standards for corporate positions.
The decision to switch careers - After several failed interviews, I like many others, needed something. As much as I didn't want a career change, I felt I had to take the plunge. Programming seemed like a good option. I saw the quantity of job openings and the salaries attached to those positions. I knew I was a critical thinker and I knew I loved to tinker with puzzle-type situations. I also dabbled in solving and fixing minor problems with the Shopify-based website at my previous job and knew that programming was fun. I thought a bootcamp might be a good opportunity to learn a new skillset quickly and increase my market value and get me back producing for a company.
I interviewed several bootcamps and heard all the stories: "We have a 94% placement rate." "Our graduates walk out of here with companies banging down the door." "Just last cohort we got a kid who got a job at Google." I heard it all. From what I gathered, bootcamps seemed to tout a high success rate of job placement and good networks in position to place their students. One bootcamp had two instructors that I found especially brilliant, so I pulled pretty much all my reserves of $15k from under my mattress and signed up.
Day 1 of bootcamp - First thing I noticed was I was immediately put into a bait and switch. Which really pissed me off because I already signed the contract and paid the cash. The instructor that I really liked, was pulled into another location and they replaced him with a kid that just graduated a bootcamp 3 months prior. If I was paying $15k, I expected industry professionals, not some kid with zero industry experience. And come to find out, hiring recent bootcamp grads to be bootcamp instructors is not an uncommon practice. I was considering leaving and potentially making a fuss, but after talking with the instructors, I found that they had plenty of resources to learn from, projects to build and the experience would be entirely dependent on me and how much I was willing to pull from it. I recommitted to max effort regardless.
The bootcamp - Of the 25 kids that started in my cohort, 10 finished the camp. The dreams of the students were big, but the work ethic was virtually nonexistent. Most kids treated the camp as a continuation of high school. They'd put their butts in the seat until class got over in the early afternoon, then they'd bounce. Many of the other students would play PC games during lecture or cruise social media. But when we'd talk about careers each student would ask questions like "So I want to live just off the coast in Hawaii so I can just surf all the time, what's the likelihood my first job will be remote?" or "I was looking at going salaries for programmers, I was thinking about asking HR for around $150k for my first job. Is that too much or should I ask for something more along the lines of $120k?" The point being, most people treated the bootcamp and programming as a life shortcut. They figured as soon as they had their certificate of completion, the job offers would rain from the skies. Let me be very clear for those who are thinking about a bootcamp. A bootcamp certificate means jack shit. Not one company will be impressed with a completion of a bootcamp. Companies want to see what you've worked on and what knowledge you've picked up along the way. The network that the bootcamp touted was worthless. We had a couple industry devs come and talk with us, but none of which were hiring. There were only 3 of us in our cohort that really pushed each other. I'd catch the earliest train at 5:30 AM and catch the latest train home at midnight. Many nights I'd pull an all nighter or I'd stay at the building and just nap on the couch for a couple hours. We'd pour over stack overflow. Every couple of days we'd ask the instructors for additional curriculum and projects to work on. We worked as hard as we could work in a hyper-focused setting. Even then, after 12 weeks we felt like we knew nothing. I was still bumbling through creating databases and my frontend React was only just slightly better.
Post bootcamp - Immediately I began applying for jobs upon completion. I had a couple contacts who worked at dev firms whom I reached out to and they tried my hand on small contracted jobs. I completed the tasks, but my code was shit. I didn't really know industry standard for code and I was still just learning to bumble through things just to make it work. I didn't know how to make things fast or correctly. I asked for a job at the firm after completing the contracted assignments. The firm denied me. After that, my time was spent juggling filling out applications, doing interviews, completing interview code problems, building small projects, building my own site, finding interview prep questions, following tutorials on Udemy, Youtube and Pluralsight and then on tricky code problems on sites like Codewars and Hackerrank. The process sucked. No matter what I was doing, I felt like I should be spending more time on other aspects of development.
Interviews - In this period I was getting plenty of interviews, but the results were usually the same. The initial interview with HR was always a breeze. I know how to talk about my work and I'm personable enough to be able to relate to people. The second interview with the manager was usually pretty easy as well. Generally they'd ask about my background and some basic coding stuff to see if I could hold my own. I'd try to be upfront about my experience while still sounding like I knew what I was talking about. Maybe about 2/3 of the time I'd get to the take home coding challenge or to where they'd call me in so I could get grilled in person. Most of the time if I was able to take the coding challenge home to where I could research things I knew nothing about, I'd crush it. They'd ask me to build small apps. Maybe I'd get asked to solve a tricky Javascript function. Explaining different terminology or how a certain technology was used was my biggest shortcoming. During the coding challenge, if it was timed or if they'd do a screen share and watch me or call me in and watch me code in front of a group, I was a mixed bag, sometimes I'd do well and other times I'd crash and burn miserably and completely embarrass myself. Pretty soon I got very accustomed to the rejection process. I'd make it to the end of the interviewing process, sometimes doing as many as 8 different interviews. I'd get passed the final interview and then the department managers would call me or I'd get a rejection letter so I'd reach out to them to find out how I could improve and they'd tell me identical stories. "Look, we're incredibly impressed by your skills and we feel you'd fit right in with the team, we love your personality. We got hundreds of applications for this position and we narrowed it down to only a couple candidates, and basically what it boils down to is we really just need someone right now with 3-5 years experience that can really hold their own and we don't have to keep an eye on." It's always 3-5 years experience.
Job 1 - This job was kind of a fluke and I don't really know if it counts because I was hired on for such a short time. It took six months of grinding out code after graduation to get my first job. It was a very small start up that needed someone who could do several things. I had a background in marketing, design and development. They hired me to do all three. What they needed was three experts in all three fields. I could handle my own in all three fields but my no means was I an expert. They hired me with very little dev screening and just took me at face value thinking I was an expert front end dev, back end dev, IT department and security dev. There was definitely a misunderstanding of what they thought a dev was and me explaining where I was in the process. Upon being hired, I didn't do as much development as I'd hoped, but it was a job. My salary was slightly more than what I was making before all this started. But alas, money mismanagement was a pretty big problem in the company and within four months the company needed to lay off all their staff.
Interviews Part II - This was the hardest part. This wasn't logistical or tactical. This was 100% an emotional grind. Firstly, I was incredibly fortunate to have a spouse making a good salary who could support me during this time and more importantly would build me up during the hard times. Without that, I'd have given up early and taken whatever low paying job I could find. During this time, it was a time of doubt, anxiety, depression, uncertainty, questioning my decision to go all in on programming to begin with. I went back to juggling my time between applying for jobs and working on projects. I'd work on small websites that some friends needed for pretty much zero pay just to get them in my resume. This time around, the interviewing process really sucked. I had around 120 phone interviews and about 40 companies do in-person interviews and coding challenges. Always the same response "You're super smart and a quick learner and we're incredibly impressed at how much you know. We think you'd be a great personality for the team. It just came down to you and someone with more experience so we opted to go with the person with more experience." Rejection. Depression. Try to put on an excited face for the next set of interviews. Rejection. Deeper depression. Rinse. Repeat. This is the part I never read about from other people on learnprogramming or bootcamp reviews. I thought it would be fairly quick. I thought that companies had a huge need and were willing to train raw talent to put butts in seats and fill positions. Suicidal thoughts began to creep in. Some especially hard days after a brutal rejection I'd just sit on the ground and cry with my dog laying next to me.
Job 2 - After 12 months since being let go of my first job, and nearly 2 years since completing bootcamp I found another smaller company that again needed someone who was a bit more rounded and scrappy. They had a Shopify based website and needed some design and some development. I'd be pretty much on my own as a dev, but the tech stack wasn't too complicated and I could focus on some basic elements while slowly expanding my arsenal of skills. They weren't tech savvy and were again convinced that a dev just meant you knew all things about code without going into too much depth of my skill set. I asked for 150% of my pre-programming salary and they complied. This actually was the perfect position for me. I was able to fake it and they were incredibly impressed by very simple projects. I increased productivity on many fronts. The company grew. They were impressed by me, but much of it was due to the simple tech stack they were dealing with. Company was well run and we grew together. I was in a good position but the job just had a couple inconveniences (benefits weren't great, salary was good but not great, I wasn't doing as much code as I'd hoped, tech stack was dated, commute took about an hour one way).
Job 3 - The dream position. A friend of mine who had initially helped convince me that programming was a good career change, just reached out one day and asked if I was looking for a change of position. I told him I was always listening. The new position was everything I had dreamed of: the latest tech stack, an incredibly gifted team to grow and learn from, the best company with all the perks and benefits. I had serious doubts I would be able to produce at that high of a level. They interviewed me. I crushed the personality interview. The take home challenge was to create a mini version of the app they were building with the tech stack they were using even though I knew nothing of their tech stack. I completed the task in 4 days with 2 all-nighters and just poured over tutorials and docs. The project ran great. I had 2 more rounds of interviews afterwards and did well on all of them. They asked my required salary I told them 210% of my pre-programming salary. I finished my interviews and landed the job. I've been working there for about a year and it's been a dream come true. Programming is everything I had hoped it'd be and more. I'm crushing the projects I work on and I've been growing at an incredibly rapid pace.
Post experience - It took almost 3 years from the date I decided on a career change into programming to land my dream job. During the process I got rejected a lot. I cried. I worked my ass off. I got knocked down. I got back up. Then I got knocked down again. And finally I made it. At many times I questioned my decision and didn't know if it was the right career move. I had two major advantages many people don't have in getting my dream job: a friend willing to guide my career change and recommend me for my dream position, and a spouse willing to support me emotionally and financially during the career transition. Looking back I ask if I'd go through it all again with the knowledge that it would take years and a lot more work than I was originally anticipating to learn programming: without a doubt yes, I'd do it again. I mean, I wish I could have harnessed my expectations for just how much time I'd spend banging out code before I'd get the position. But the field is so rewarding.
TL;DR - Did a bootcamp. Changed Careers into programming. More than doubled my salary. It took much longer than I was anticipating, a hundred times more work than I was anticipating, and took me to the darkest place emotionally I'd ever been. It wasn't rainbows and unicorns like most stories I've read on here. It's not the story that will blow sunshine up your ass. But it's my story.
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2020.08.15 23:00 Trofulds An unnecessarily long analysis as to why I think Ride or Die is the best written book in Pixelberry's library

Okay, I want to start this by saying that while Endless Summer is my favorite book due to emotional attachment (Kinda doubting this now as of October 1st of 2020) I still think that Ride or Die comfortably surpasses it and every other Choices story when it comes to writing quality. I've been consuming some truly kino media like Steins;Gate, The Last of Us Part II and Better Call Saul in the past few months but seeing that the tumblr side of the fandom was having a ROD Appreciation Week made me have the book constantly wrestling for time in my mind along all those other things that I greatly enjoyed (Obviously, I'm not trying to imply this is anywhere near the same level of quality as these other pieces, cause that'd just be stupid) but yeah, I've been wanting to talk in depth about why I hold Ride or Die in such high regard for a long time now, so this post is for me, for anyone else that might be big fans of the book or even for people that didn't like it and don't understand why it's a fan favorite. It's also my late, not proofread contribution to the appreciation week since I can't really draw for shit.
PREMISE AND THEMES
Quick summary, it’s a story about growing up and finding oneself that focuses on an 18 year old girl in her last weeks of high school that joins a criminal crew without even realizing it due to her sheltered life making her feel like she missed out on her teenage years for the past 5 years since, after her mother’s death, her dad became incredibly protective of her. As she grows attached to the crew she gets deeply immersed in their world until she realizes what the pursue of freedom, fast cars and bad boys/girls truly entails. Of course, you all know that.
So, themes. Most Choices stories don’t have any big, noticeable theme that encompasses the entire story they’re trying to tell, which is completely fine since you can still write a good, compelling story without it (Unless you’re David Benioff). Of course, while not necessary, overarching themes elevate a story a lot more in my eyes if executed properly and I feel like Ride or Die excels at it. And what are these themes? Well, obviously, it’s up to every individual’s interpretation but to me the three biggest stand outs are freedom, obviously; the choice between someone’s own past and future; and how the typical Bad Boy Romance is not always the cheesy, idealized life most of us are used to. I’ll explain how the story presents these themes in the following segments.
ELLIE WHEELER, aka THE MC
I’ve raved about her at almost every chance I get because I feel like I can make a pretty compelling argument as to why she’s the best MC and one of the best characters PB’s ever written, but it’s about time I finally sat down to properly explain this stance. I might refer to her as Ellie at times instead of MC since I just don’t like having an essay this big and introspective and just referring to her as MC, even if I didn’t actually keep her default name myself.
So, let’s start from what most of the ROD MC masterrace knows about, she’s different from 95% of the MCs. She has a clear goal, a clear personality and, one of the most rare traits in MCs, her dad’s an actual character and he has an actual relationship with her. She’s also far from perfect, she’s an incredibly smart young woman that lacks “street” knowledge and as she gets in deeper and deeper with the MPC, her previous and new relationships suffer because of it, because she doesn’t know how to juggle both sides of her life. The hardships Ellie has to face are both products of the environment she lives in and a product of her mistakes, which acts as a nice balance so that she doesn’t come of as a bumbling idiot that fucks up everything for everyone and an overly perfect protagonist who’s only flaw is that the world just plots against her so that there can be a story to tell.
Her goal is a pretty simple one, she wants to go to Langston university, her dream school. The thing that stands out to me is how she never betrays her dream and it’s always present in the back of her mind, well, technically you can choose to skip out on all of her classes but that always seemed really out of character to me, so I’m not really taking that into account, since she expresses that she loves to learn and she sees it as a challenge to be better than herself from yesterday. She manages to involve Logan into her school life so she isn’t fully distracted from her studies and even when she’s living on the Gramercy Garage, she still finds time to study for her finals. Even when everything goes to shit and she starts losing sight of who she is, Logan, Colt and Mona know that being a criminal is not the life she’s meant to live and it isn’t until after prom that she realizes who she really is. There’s so many choices throughout the story that, while ultimately not relevant to the outcome, I feel can add a lot of character to her if you’re willing to “headcanon” a bit, so minor things such as picking the color of her car due to it being the same as Logan’s or the one Colt or Mona suggested, choosing to listen to rap music as she’s driving the MPC around since it can be seen as a rebellious sort of music that her dad probably wouldn’t have approved of, treating Brent’s party invitation as something of no importance to her, getting a tattoo… wait this one’s supposed to be big, why does no one acknowledge it dammit? Then there’s also some bigger choices such as her being able to tell Riya that she’s most excited about being able to leave LA on the first chapter or being able to choose to stay with Logan and help him fight Salazar, choosing to focus on her studies even when living with the MPC, and so on.
Now, how is she tied to the themes I mentioned above? Well, it’s clear that her desire for freedom and independence is what initially leads her to want to be a part of the MPC’s life, when Kaneko brought her to the garage for the first time she didn’t quite see them as criminals, but as people that lived as they wanted and were still, well, humans. She’s constantly seeking her own freedom from her dad’s overbearing presence and from her own boring life and she achieves it twice, one is the fake freedom she got when she ran away after her dad found out about her involvement with the MPC and the second one is what I like to think of as her true freedom. The definition of true freedom is tied to the second theme I mentioned, the choice between past and future, after the Brotherhood attacks her and her LI after prom she realizes that she can no longer try to keep on living both lives, the nerdy valedictorian girl and the criminal that gets a thrill by being behind the wheel, the inability to choose between one and the other is what initially landed her into that mess and it’s only by finally choosing that she’s able to get herself and everyone else from the MPC out. It’s a very unique way of showing a character being strong, she got herself out of the mess she herself helped cause and she did it without the conventional strengths of MCs such as being a warrior queen, a part of an alien entity that transcends time or a literal vampire.
Ultimately, she chose to embrace her future (And her past, in a roundabout way), her long time dream, which meant letting go of the life and people that once made her feel so free and alive and by doing so, she got the freedom she desired so much while also finding who she truly was and what she valued in life. That’s also tied to the third main theme I mentioned, in the end she couldn’t keep on living an idealized version of the bad boy romance where you get to keep a good life out of living on the wrong side of the law and while I could definitely go more in depth about how she embodies this theme, I’ll do that when I talk about other characters, since I’ve already talked about about Ellie a lot.
LOGAN
The cover boy, the boy with the car, the “bad boy”, the mandatory “good boi” LI, the only Love Interest that has managed to rival Quinn Kelly in terms of how much I love them. I feel like the love for all 3 LIs is mostly evenly distributed on this sub but I’ve definitely seen some people say that Logan is kinda boring compared to Colt and Mona and honestly, that just couldn’t be further from the truth in my mind. Prepare for another long ass analysis.
Being a fan of the anime/manga series Attack on Titan has made me gain a great, great appreciation for story recontextualization and that narrative element is exactly what Logan brings to the story at the end of Chapter 10 and boy, did Luke and the team knock that shit out of the park with how they implemented that tool into their story. ROD Ch. 10 is notorious for being the chapter that officially turned the book from an initially hated book that people were slowly warming up to, to a current fan favorite as far as online communities are concerned, seriously, you can look up the discussion for that chapter in the search bar and the first comment you’ll see if someone taking back everything negative they said about the book and then it’s just constant praising for the next 6 weeks. Why did all of that happen? Because of how much starts making sense or becoming clearer because of the reveal that Logan initially started dating (?) MC because he was trying to get whatever intel her dad had on them from her, seriously, everything becomes so clear after the end of the chapter, everything starts falling into place like a carefully crafted Lego build, be it for the stories’ themes or for characterization of characters like Colt, Mona, Kaneko, Jason and Logan himself.
Let’s focus on Logan for now though. A couple of chapters in, as we start learning more about his life, we can see that Logan is someone that’s never truly had someone in his life that could show him true human love and bonds, the closest he has to that prior to Ellie is his “cousin” Vaughn. Initially, it seems like a weak attempt at making the titular bad boy seem like a layered character, specially since he seemingly just fell for a random girl that literally stumbled upon him on a high school parking lot, but in reality the reason his fake interest in Ellie started to become reality was exactly because of the lack of proper, meaningful connections, which we couldn’t have known until after Colt reveals the truth. As we know, Logan always had the mentality that, no matter how good a crew might be, he should always be ready to bail when the heat is too much, that’s a philosophy that he adopted and he knows that any criminal that’s as good as him will share the same sentiment, which proves to be the case when the MPC immediately disbands after Kaneko’s death... but Ellie isn’t a hardened, professional criminal, she’s a girl that, while certainly enamored by the allure of their life, still sees them as people, not as mere means to an end that are just fun to hang out with, which is why she doesn’t run away after the escape from the mall or the encounter with Salazar’s crew at the drive-in cinema, that’s not something Logan thinks people are capable of, why would such a saint of a girl not get away from them after things like that?
That’s when Logan’s guilt enters the scene. He tries to undo what he now considers to have been a great mistake since he’s slowly catching real feelings for the girl that was just supposed to spill all of Detective Wheeler’s info and leave them as soon as she realized how dangerous their life was, but how is he supposed to do that now when doing so would mean losing this person that’s so incredibly unique in his world? We see how his guilt starts weighing on him more and more as the story progresses, until he almost does something very stupid by almost revealing the truth right before the stadium job, so he probably wouldn’t have lasted much without revealing it but, for better or worse, Colt was the one that did it for him and once again Logan turns Ellie’s whole world upside down. For the rest of the book, he does everything in his power to show her that, while he was lying in the beginning, he actually did come to care for her a lot (even if his actions might’ve pushed her into the arms of Colt or Mona, or at least acted as the final push in their routes).
After the MPC disbanded there was only one person I could see appearing on Riya’s doorstep when I played through ROD during release and that was Logan, because it just made all the sense in the world in my mind. Backtracking a bit, we know from his two diamond scenes on the early chapters that Logan dropped out of high school but he always liked to learn about random stuff, hence him reading while on the road, and that he always toyed with the idea of going back (He also says that he’d probably be graduating that year if he hadn’t dropped out, which tells us that he’s the youngest of the 3 LIs, which is a neat detail), so I always saw that as him showing up not just for Ellie’s sake but also for himself in a way, since it’d be a good way to live out the life he never had, even if just for a few hours. Speaking of prom night, I absolutely adore how when he tells Ellie he loves her, she can reply with “Logan… no you don’t.” since it’s only natural she wouldn’t believe him 100% since not only did they get together through a web of lies spun by him and Kaneko, but because as far as she knows, Logan can’t possibly know what real love feels like.
Fast forward to the final chapter and it’s time for the MPC to go their own ways, for real this time, to avoid getting entangled with the FBI and, even if Logan wasn’t your actual LI he still shows that he’s completely accepting of the fact that he isn’t the one Ellie loves, and on both cases he shows that he also grew to truly love her by deciding to not be a part of her life any more, because it just isn’t feasible for her to pursue her dreams while also being involved with potential suspects on the FBI watch list, so he chooses her future over his because he can’t and he won’t let her risk her future for something as small as a space rock lucky enough to burn up in her atmosphere for a moment and with that, a heartfelt kiss, an explicit and tacit declaration of love, a request for Troublemaker to give ‘em hell and a brief but tense showdown with Detective Wheeler, Logan speeds off into the night.
COLT KANEKO
The actual leather wearing bad boy of the story that sauntered his way into the hearts of many fans, both as a character and a love interest, he’s sarcastic, he’s funny, he’s soft-ish only with the MC and he’s also a multilayered character, how could he not be liked? I want to preface this section by saying that, just like with really popular LIs such as Jake Mackenzie, Damien Nazario or Ethan Ramsey, I could never bring myself to like Colt in a romantic way, even though I can certainly see the appeal of their route but even then, just like the aforementioned gentlemen, he’s still one of my favorite characters of the series regardless of that, simply because of how much he brings to the table. So without further ado, let’s get started with Mr. “Christ, who caaares?” Kaneko’s unnecessarily long essay.
Right off the bat we can see that Colt has a bone to pick with Logan due to their relationship with Kaneko, he’s always butting heads with Logan and Kaneko at the beginning because he resents both, the latter for sending him away to college and not being willing to let him in on the family business and the former for, in his eyes, being the son Kaneko always wanted, not knowing that the only reason his dad kept him away from the business and seemingly replaced him with Logan was because if Jason actually harmed the MPC he could live with the loss of Logan on his conscience, but not Colt’s. As time goes on Colt finds himself slowly warming up to Ellie, even if he initially just thinks of her as one of his dad’s mistakes waiting to blow up in their faces, and even if he does relentlessly teases/annoys her it’s very obvious that he can connect with her because of her complicated relationship with her dad and she can understand him, they both love their dads immensely but they severely disagree on the view they have of their respective child. And against Colt’s predictions, Ellie proves herself as a valuable asset to the crew (Not knowing until later on just how deep that rang true) and he eventually starts falling for her as well, which is what sets the Chapter 10 plot twist in motion.
After the MPC manages to steal the super cars for the Brotherhood, Kaneko opens up to the idea of letting Colt into the business, since it’s clear he won’t just pack up and leave for college anymore, especially after Kaneko is shot and threatened by the Brotherhood and he has to rely on Colt’s plan of kidnapping one of their members and at some point he reveals the truth about their current situation to his son, where Colt finds out about the truth behind Logan and Ellie but it isn’t until after the stadium heist that he makes shit hit the fan by starting a fight with Logan and spilling his secret. That always seemed to me that it came from a place that’s equal parts being mad at Logan for using Ellie like that but also him seeing it as a petty opportunity to sow discord between them, which is why she later has the choice to unload on Colt for deliberately keeping the truth to himself until the right moment. This also marks the moment where the somewhat toxic, somewhat supportive, somewhat wholesome and entirely complicated romantic relationship between them can start to flourish, since Ellie obviously doesn’t see Logan in the exact same way she did 24 hours before and depending on the player, she could’ve actually started to develop her relationship with Colt (Or Mona) prior to the reveal.
Something I haven’t seen being mentioned about Colt’s arc is how him being misjudged and misunderstood by both Ellie and Kaneko plays a huge role in it. After Ellie leaves the MPC, he decides to put the rest of his plan in motion, luring The Brotherhood into an illegal casino’s vault using the member they kidnapped and kill them via gassing. Toby completely disagrees with their actions and decides to recruit Ellie to help him stop the crew from crossing a line that they seemingly haven’t crossed yet, yes they’re criminals but much like Ellie’s initial impression of them, they’re not psychos and much less murderers, they’re still good people; so she sets out to stop them with the help of Toby and a Logan that’s desperate for atonement, but her biggest mistake was assuming that Colt isn’t the kind of person that can kill another person if it means protecting those he cares about. This is where it gets incredibly interesting and compelling to me, since not only does her misjudge of character ruin Colt’s entire plan but there’s also the possibility that she had been working for Jason and the Brotherhood the whole time, so in some cases they might’ve actually escaped the trap directly because of her and it doesn’t stop there, since as a result the MPC lose their entire advantage and are once again being targeted by The Brotherhood and that directly leads to not only another huge reveal from Kaneko’s part but also his death, him sacrificing himself so that the crew could escape as he let’s Colt know that he wishes for him to just let go of this life and do something better for himself. Before the rest of the MPC reunites at Gramercy Park, Colt tells Ellie how he plans to kill them all, to rebuild the garage and kill them all before finally breaking down on her arms as his loss catches up to him, right before the Mercy Park Crew splits up after their loss against Jason.
In the end, the two people Colt cared about the most failed at truly understanding him, his dad kept him at an arm’s length for a long time, missing out on time with his son because he never considered the fact that what he wanted for Colt was not what he wanted for himself, despite of all the risks it might entail, and Ellie played a part in Kaneko’s death by not realizing that Colt would be willing to cross such a fucked up line if it meant protecting the people and legacy he cared about so much. Those two factors play a huge role in the rest of the book since they’re the reasons why Colt is pushed dangerously close to a downward spiral that will most definitely only bring him more pain at the end of the book. After Jason is dealt with, he laments the fact that he and Ellie met under such circumstances and not in a classroom where they could annoy each other and become friends and/or significant others but he doesn’t lament his current situation, he’s dead set on becoming the king of LA, on carrying on his father’s legacy, now more than ever. I’d argue Colt Kaneko is the biggest cautionary tale in this book about the dangers of the often glorified life of the bad boys and fast cars and how it can consume you, he was very special to Ellie and Kaneko but they didn’t fully understand who he was, how he was shaped by his ideal future and they couldn’t see how the most important thing for him was his past, his legacy and as a result, he’s alone against a dangerous world, but that’s a danger that he very much welcomes.
If any of you have done Colt’s romance route and feel like I missed out on anything, do let me know in the comments, I feel like my appreciation for him only grew more as I wrote his section.
MONA
The bad girl, the loner, what even is her real name? I’m also going to dedicate an analysis to her but I also want to direct you to a post from a few months ago by user u/elbenji who has reviewed ROD from a WLW perspective that I think you should also check out if you’ve got the time. Anyway, Mona’s turn.
So, who’s Mona? Well, she’s kind of the Drake Walker of the book, which is a role that you don’t usually see being filled by a female LI. She doesn’t seem to like anyone, she’s pessimistic, she rarely misses the chance to mock people, she’s damn good at her job and she’s loyal to no one but herself, to some she might actually be the worse person of the 3 LIs during the early chapters but as everything else in this book, the layers to her start to show the more the story advances. She shares Logan’s worldview of everyone only being out for themselves but unlike Logan, she knows that not everyone is necessarily like that but in her eyes those people are in for a rude awakening from the world at some point for being dumb enough to think that they can count on someone else and that’s why she’s borderline condescending towards Ellie when the topic of interpersonal relationships comes up between them.
If Colt is shaped by his future, Mona is shaped by her past. Once upon a time she used to be little Miss Perfect like Ellie, honor roll, on the path to valedictorian, the whole thing, until she met a girl that she fell in love with, a criminal that made her enjoy life to its fullest and ended up becoming her whole world until one day they got caught and were taken to interrogation separately where Mona, fully trusting of her partner, lied about their involvement but was still arrested because her girlfriend ended up giving her up in exchange of freedom. That event shaped Mona’s entire philosophy, when it came down to it, people would always put themselves above everyone else and after Kaneko gave her back her freedom that’s the only code she stuck by, her own personal freedom and survival became the most important thing in Mona’s life, even when the man that saved her was in danger she considered multiple times to just leave the MPC to their luck. That is, until she met Ellie Wheeler.
Obviously, in typical Pixelberry fashion, Mona doesn’t have as much screen time as her male counterparts but what she lacks in screen time she more than makes up in both narrative and thematic relevancy. As mentioned previously, Mona’s always reminding Ellie how out of her depth she is and treating her like a dumb girl that doesn’t know what she’s doing (Which, to a certain extent, is true) but when shit goes south after the stadium heist it turns out that she’s the only LI that never actually played with Ellie’s feelings and was always straight (Heh) with her. It's things like this that I love immensely about ROD, the 3 love interests have so many layers to them, they do good and bad things and they feel like actual people that exist in this fictional Los Angeles, their actions are a product of what’s established as their characters, not just as stuff that happens because the plot needs it to. Back on track, just like with Colt, this is the point where Ellie and Mona’s relationship really takes off if the player chooses to and unlike Colt, her going after Ellie feels like it comes off from a place of actual concern since she understands what she’s going through, regardless of whether their relationship is platonic or not at that point, she still sees a girl that feels like she’s got no one left that she can trust in, so she takes it upon herself to be there for her, slowly shedding her walls that she’s put up for so long, probably without even realizing it.
After the failed job at the casino, Mona once again contemplates leaving the MPC in the middle of the shit storm but Ellie manages to get her to help since she owes Kaneko that much at the very least, only for her to find out a few minutes later that Kaneko knew The Brotherhood were corrupt cops from the beginning and never confided in them with that information and, in another cruel twist of fate, Kaneko ends up sacrificing himself so that Ellie, Logan, Colt and Mona could run away, once again, giving Mona her freedom even after completely betraying her trust. As the MPC discuss their course of action after that, she breaks and let’s out what’s probably my favorite quote in Choices: ”You wanted freedom? The fast cars, the bad boy, that whole life? This is it… and it’s not for you. Go home, for everyone’s sake.”, in that moment she let’s the entire pressure of the situation get to her and unleashes on Ellie, the main reason why they’re all in that whole mess. It’s an incredibly cathartic quote that perfectly encapsulates what ROD is all about, the criminal life is not something one can just juggle as if it were a part time job that’s there for the thrills, it can only lead to a life that most people, if presented with the choice, would never want for themselves. When I read that for the first time I completely forgot that I was just reading a story on a free Visual Novel app where you’d never expect to find writing of such quality. I can perfectly feel Mona’s anguish and anger in that quote, the whole weight of the events of the book finally come crashing down on us after we read those words and it’s just such a great feeling that I’ll never stop praising.
Let’s get to prom night though, much like Mona going after Ellie on Chapter 11, I feel like her showing up for her prom is still really fitting and the diamond scene that follows after is arguably the best wlw dirty thirty in the app, the dialogue during it is just top tier to be honest. But even better than it to me is the scene after that, where she decides to join The Brotherhood if it means Ellie gets to run away from them since they’re obviously looking to tie up lose ends, it is especially hard hitting if she’s your LI but the version with Colt or Logan is still amazing and I especially love how she uses the hot wiring skills Mona taught her to run away. After the Mercy Park Crew’s last ride together, Mona ends up taking a bullet for the girl that reminded her so much of herself and as Ellie drives her to the hospital she talks about how hard she’s going to be to forget, before reaching the hospital and walking herself inside, knowing that she’d be imprisoned once again before the day is over. I’ve seen a fair share of people that were unhappy with Mona having to deal with such harsh consequences but I personally love, love the end of her route since Mona’s always been about self preservation and only being there for herself but meeting Ellie gets her to slip, she starts caring for her and in the end chooses to give up on her freedom if it means Ellie gets to walk away with hers, in a way being for Ellie the complete opposite of what her ex-girlfriend was to her all those years ago (The dramatic irony can be turned to 11 if you choose the options that show her slowly adopting Mona’s philosophy during the final chapters, so she can slowly become more cynical as Mona slowly sheds her cynicism). In the end, Mona might not be free but she’s still on her element, she’ll be on a place where she’d have to count only on herself and while she’ll definitely have to face some time for her crimes, I’m pretty sure she’d thrive in prison.
End of Part 1
Okay, I initially wanted to talk about the supporting characters as well but this shit is truly living up to its title at almost 5K words, that’s already a decently sized one shot, so I’ll stop here since I still want to post it close to the appreciation week, though I might make some edits here and there as I reread it later on but I'm too lazy to do that right now. If I see there’s a good reception for a stupidly long post like this I’ll probably get to work on the second part where I talk about Kaneko, Jason, Detective Wheeler, Toby, Ximena and Riya and Darius, as well as maybe analysis for other books that I hold in really high regard such as the Endless Summer trilogy, Open Heart or It Lives Beneath. If you actually made it all the way here, I just want to thank you for taking the time of your day for reading my semi-coherent thoughts and definitely let me know what you think, if you agree, if you disagree, if you think I should go outside, etc. Thank you for your attention.
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2020.08.05 01:13 UniverseAZoidberg Best dating apps for middle age in BCS?

I am a 40M, straight and finalizing a divorce after a long separation. Looking to move on. I have never used a dating website or app and I was looking at reviews and I'm wondering which ones are popular in this area.
I am interested in another long term relationship, not hopping from bed to bed. I'd also like to be able to match with people of similar income and education. I make a decent living and having good dates is valuable to me, so I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount for the right site or app. I'm just concerned about how many I should try and which ones actually are well in use around here.
This is what I've heard from friends-
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The League- don't think it covers the BCS area, and it looks really expensive
Match/eHarmony- dunno
So, there you go. I'm looking for input on what apps I'm most likely to find what I'm looking for. Thanks!
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